{ "numMessagesInTopic": 13, "nextInTime": 1045, "senderId": "ALVym1J_ICpVVU1mpOtLQcdcBxiPKhHw1zqE6BnPwGBA2ANVu-q0GO4RwBdVtiSzNVqT3Wm0Hiq8St4qrM2_Qulm0JzDyFiE_tmW2oXNz_cT", "systemMessage": false, "subject": "Re: [01v96] Re: 01V96 as a crossover ?", "from": ""Ronny Morris" <digitakmastering@...>", "authorName": "Ronny Morris", "msgSnippet": "... Very interesting. I ve delayed array s that were FOH/BOH, but never a horn to a mid driver or sub at the same spot. I have some Sunn Radial Coliseum horns", "msgId": 1044, "profile": "ronnymorris2001", "topicId": 1024, "spamInfo": { "reason": "0", "isSpam": false }, "replyTo": "LIST", "userId": 136810499, "messageBody": "
>Very interesting. I've delayed array's that were FOH/BOH, but never a horn to a mid driver or sub at
\n> >
\n> > No need to phase align the crossover points, because each send acts
\n> as it's own x-over.
\n>
\n>
\n> Hi
\n> What I ment by that is often drivers are forward or back in time
\n> compared to each other .
\n>
\n> Take a horn driver as an example . Most of the time your horn driver
\n> voice coil is 8 to 10 inches back in the box . With the midrange
\n> drivers voice coil only 3 or so inches back . So there is maybe 7
\n> inches of delay time between the exit of the midrange to the exit of
\n> the horn . Although lower in level both the horn and midrange
\n> reproduce the same freq at the crossover point . This out of phase
\n> timeing issue causes combing , cancelations etc. at the crossover
\n> feq . I do a impluse time of the horn . An impluse time of the
\n> midrange . Add needed delay to the midrange so its signal reaches the
\n> test mike at the same time as the horns signal .
\n> Then I plot the phase slope of the horn . Lets say it is 80 degrees +
\n> at the crossover freq . Then I fine tune the midranges delay time
\n> till its phase angle is 80 degrees + at the crossover point as well .
\n> This gets both drivers In Phase alignment at the crossover point .
\n> This gives the best sound on and off axis when the correct filters
\n> and filter slope types are used .
\n> >
\n
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>Of course no offense taken. Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Praise Allah, Hats off to Buddah and
\n> >
\n> > You'll find that keeping your signal digital and processing in that
\n> realm, will sound much better
\n> > than running racks where you are zip chording in and out of several
\n> op amp processors. Any time that
\n> > you run your signal through an op amp it degrades the signal. Some
\n> of the bands that I've consulted,
\n> > have so much shit hooked up, graphics, fx, parametrics, feedback
\n> eliminaters, sonic enhancers like
\n> > Aphex and BBE's, comps, limiters etc. First thing that I do is
\n> unhook every thing and run it
\n> > straight from board to amp, they are amazed at their system's
\n> sound. They get locked up into adding
\n> > more and more stuff without ever going back to square one to A/B
\n> and don't realize until they hear
\n> > it bare again, how much they are degrading their signal. You can't
\n> beat the pristine sound of
\n> > remaining in the digital realm. No degradation from input to final
\n> output.
\n>
\n> I learned this the first night out with the V .
\n> Your 100 % correct on that . I feel now I fell into the same trap .
\n> I spent so much time hooking up and setting unity with a volt meter
\n> etc that I got to miss the fun of mixing . Seems every day I pick up
\n> another great tip to improve my mixing . Grouping the drums is very
\n> handy to keep on the first layer instead of sub grouping and
\n> switching to master layers to drop or increase song for song .
\n> Also the tip on setting eq's back to flat might come in handy as
\n> well . Thumbs up .
\n>
\n> >
\n> > There isn't a lot that you "can't" do with the 01v or v96 at a live
\n> venue, that you "can" do with a
\n> > wall of rack gear.
\n>
\n> Again I agree . I keep kicking myself for not going digital along
\n> time ago .
\n>
\n> I am unsure if this is OK with the group or with your personal faith
\n> but have a merry christmas and a very good new year .
\n>
\n> Sould you not partake no offense or disrespect intended .
\n
\n
> Kindest regards
\n> Doug Allen