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----- Original Message -----
\nFrom: "Mark" <kb4cvn@...>
\nTo: <GE-Mpa@yahoogroups.com>
\nSent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:38 AM
\nSubject: [GE-Mpa] Re: keyloader
\n
\n
\nHi Phil,
\nYep, you are correct on the change in export restrictions. I
\ncopied/pasted from an old White Paper I wrote on the topic several
\nyears back and forgot to update my info.
\n
\n
\n>>I was also wondering if keyloaders from Big M can be
\n>>used with GE and vice versa.
\n
\nNo. Totally different formats.
\n
\n
\n>>Big M now sells the KVL 3000 which is a software defined keyloader,
\n>>does GE have a similar product?
\n
\n
\nM/A-Com's product offering of this type is called KEYMANAGER (TQS-
\n3416).
\n
\nCurrently only supports the P7100 and M7100 radios.
\nDES Encryption (64-Bit) for P-25 and EDACS
\nAES Encryption (128-Bit & 256-Bit) for P-25.
\nSoftware based, runs only on Win-2000 & Win-XP.
\nUses `smart cards' for encoding the crypto codekeys for distribution.
\nHas two applications:
\nKEYMANAGER, for use by the Crypto Officer in creation of codekeys.
\nKEYLOADER, for use by the Techie to keyload the individual radios.
\n
\n>> ...and numerous people that simply put MURS freqs in
\n
\nDigital voice operations on the two 154 MHz MURS frequencies is quite
\npopular nationwide.
\n
\nI have several radios for this purpose. They are programmed for:
\nCLEAR (analog) VOICE, Unencrypted AEGIS, and Encrypted Aegis. I also
\nhave all seven NOAA Weather channels for RX. These radios are very
\nhanding when traveling or camping.
\n
\n(The reason for the Unencrypted AEGIS channel is if for some reason
\nthe radio dumped its cryptographic codekey, I could revert back to
\nunencrypted AEGIS digital mode and still retain some level of privacy
\nfrom scanners and other on-channel users.)
\n
\n
\n73,
\nMark C. KB4CVN
\n
\n
\n
\n--- In GE-Mpa@yahoogroups.com, "phil on the job" <silverbk@...> wrote:
\n>
\n> Mark, as an addendum to your excellent post.
\n>
\n> The Clinton administration has changed many of the laws regarding
\nexporting
\n> encryption technology, and a munitions license is no longer
\nrequired for any
\n> product using a 56 bit key of less. Export is still forbidden to
\nthe 7
\n> terrorist states : cuba, Syria, Sudan, Iran, Iraq Libya, and North
\nKorea
\n>
\n> I recently picked up 100 Big M Saber I Securenet with DES
\nencryption. I
\n> resold them in smaller lots on Ebay.
\n>
\n> I had many different folks purchase them for use with the
\nencrpytion among
\n> them:
\n>
\n> a private investigation outfit
\n> a police officer moving to the Phillipines (radios to be used by
\nhis
\n> bodyguards)
\n> a ham in Hungary
\n> an enthusiast in Russia
\n> a business man in Sweden
\n> and numerous people that simply put MURS freqs in
\n>
\n> I kept six of them for use locally with my USCG Auxiliary flotilla.
\n>
\n> I was also wondering if keyloaders from Big M can be used with GE
\nand vice
\n> versa. Big M now sells the KVL 3000 which is a software defined
\nkeyloader,
\n> does GE have a similar product?
\n>
\n> Phil
\n> KC2GDF
\n>
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